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TC
Minutes
WAEA
Technical Committee Meeting
May 19, 1999
Universal City Hilton & Towers
Universal City, CA
Draft
Minutes
| Aliffi,
Tom - Delta Air Lines, Inc. |
Freeman,
Dale - Northwest Airlines |
Rogozinski,
Mary - United Airlines |
| Abalos,
Al - Matsushita Avionics Systems |
Goedecke,
Rolf - Daimler Chrysler Aerospace |
Salter,
Rich - ITRI/AAI |
| Belshaw,
Michael - Virgin Atlantic Airways |
Hamlin,
Betsy - Disc Marketing, Inc |
Salzman,
John - AEI Inflight |
| Bull,
Wolfgang - Lufthansa German Airlines |
Hanniball,
Wade - Universal |
Schiffmann,
Joerg - Atlas Air Film & Media Service |
| Cobden,
Richard - Marconi Canada |
Knudtson,
Bob - Boeing |
Soucy,
Rodger - Ball Aerospace |
| Craver,
Kent - Continental Airlines |
Lee,
Don - Boeing |
Sterchi,
Ben - Swissair/TEP |
| Crossett,
Dave - Miltope Corp. |
Lew,
Ken - Sony Trans Com |
Stevenson,
George - IEC International |
| Cutler,
Julia - Paramount Pictures |
Maritan,
Michael - Marconi Canada |
Stone,
Cam - Transdigital Communications Corp. |
| DeBlasio,
Don - Continental Airlines |
McGowan,
Al - TEAC America |
Tarver,
Cindy - Transdigital Communication Corp. |
| Foley,
Catherine - Paramount Pictures |
Morgan,
Neil - I. E. C. International |
Tharp,
Dave - Virgin Atlantic |
I.
Welcome and Introductions
Rich
Salter, WAEA-TC Co-Chair, welcomed the committee and thanked
the meeting sponsors and attendees of the just-completed DVD-WG
and Satellite-WG meetings. Mary Rogozinski, UAL and TC Co-Chair,
reviewed the mission of the WAEA-TC and read the WAEA antitrust
guidelines. The attendees then introduced themselves.
Adoption
of minutes from previous meetings - Rich Salter and Mary
Rogozinski announced they were still in the process of editing
the February 1999 meeting minutes. Adoption was tabled to
the next meeting. They will be posted to the WAEA web site
as soon as possible.
Agenda
review & revisions
Rich
Salter reviewed the agenda and noted the following revisions:
- Special
presentation from Kent Craver of Continental Airlines will
be moved up
- Discussion
of upcoming meetings and the date for the next TC meeting
will be moved up
Upcoming
Meetings
June
22-24 AEEC/WAEA CEI Brussels, Belgium
July 27-29 DVD-WG Universal Hilton, California
July 26-27 Satellite WG Universal Hilton, California
July 26 Media Storage WG and Internet WG may also meet at
the Hilton
July 30 (?) left open for now WAEA-TC? Universal Hilton, California
Sept. 28 Oct. 1 WAEA Conference Salt Lake City
Mid-October (?) MPAA Conference TBD
November (?) AEEC/WAEA CEI Los Angeles area, California
The
next meeting of the AEEC/WAEA CEI will be June 22-24, 1999
in Brussels, Belgium. Al McGowan, Rodger Soucy, and Dave Crossett
(or their delegates) will present the status of the DVD, Satellite,
and Storage WGs at that meeting.
Rich
raised the issue of whether another TC meeting was warranted
immediately after the DVD-WG meeting on July 30. He noted
that all the work was effectively being conducted in the WGs
themselves and perhaps less frequent TC meetings for status
updates would make sense. He also noted that there would be
a need to allow time for consideration of the DVD specification
after the next DVD meeting and prior to the next TC meeting
when it could be adopted.
Wade
Hanniball indicated that he hoped there will not be a need
for another meeting of the DVD-WG after July, but noted that
was a possibility in order to complete the specification before
the September 28 WAEA Conference. He acknowledge that there
will be a need for peer review by the TC and WAEA membership
at large, and suggested that the WAEA-TC have a meeting to
adopt the DVD-WG specification prior to the September WAEA
Conference. R. Salter suggested we leave the meeting date
open at this point, pending determination of the DVD timeline.
Rich
indicated that the WAEA Agenda Committee chairs have been
requested to allocate one of the breakout sessions at the
WAEA Conference in September for a WAEA DVD-TC presentation
of the new specification. He noted that this Annual Conference
would make for an excellent opportunity to unveil the new
specification and urge adherence to it by the member companies.
Presentation
"In-Flight
Entertainment on Continental Airlines" - Kent Craver,
Continental Airlines
Mary Rogozinski introduced Kent Craver, Manager - Product
Marketing, Continental Airlines, who shared what Continental
is doing to get the highest ratings in passenger satisfaction:
IFE is an important aspect of over-all product, but its
not a driver of what we do to get a customer. IFE is more
important on intercontinental than shorter flights. On wide
body aircraft the industry is beginning to make a shift to
more personalized entertainment. Continental management saw
that in October 98 for 777 aircraft. They worked with
their seat suppliers to get ahead of the game with their in-seat
video product. There is a need to make provisions to plan
for future upgrade of parts. Continental has made a decision
to put video on all new aircraft.
Relationships
with suppliers are much better today than several years ago.
Suppliers are much more interested in what the airlines want.
Airlines would like to give input when suppliers are designing
a new system: "Products that suppliers have may do a
lot, but the product needs to solve my in-cabin problems or
solve things I need to solve."
There
is a need to pull flight attendants out of the entertainment
programming business. We like systems that can be updated
remotely. One aircraft is easy to update, but if we have 100
aircraft, we do not want to pay a maintenance person $50-60/hour
to plug-in a new PC card on each aircraft.
Integrate
with other customer information systems: We would like to
tell customers at what gate they are going to connect with
real-time information in flight. We would also like to tell
customers who lost a bag the status of that search, and if
passengers have missed a connecting flight wed like
to provide hotel info to them before they land.
Continental
would like to incorporate interactive software into IFE throughout
the cabins. Our 777 aircraft have in-seat video throughout
the cabin: 16 channels for video programs, 13 audio channels,
and PC games for interactive use. IFE is standard in wide-body
international aircraft, and the challenge faced by airlines
is that entertainment is expected on international and domestic
flights. Customers dont want to pay a dime more for
it.
For
the future, we see in-flight entertainment as part of overall
product, but we do not see it as a driver. Other issues for
customers they are trying to attract are as important or more
important than IFE.
Continental
has installed laptop power systems in BusinessFirst and select
zones in Economy cabins on its 777s. However, we have taken
a back-seat approach to retrofitting in-seat laptop power
taking a wait-and-see attitude. With the expense of that product
we arent sold on the fact that its going to sell.
Management looks at the cost-benefit analysis: its less
expensive to install on new aircraft than to retrofit it.
Questions
and answers ensued on the following topics:
Question:
Are there one or two top needs we should focus on in regard
to all the new technologies like DVD, Satellite TV, advanced
phone systems for Internet and e-mail?
Answers/Comments:
- Higher
bandwidth satellite, Internet e-mail, inter/intra-net capability,
and telecommunications in general will be expected on aircraft
in the long term. What is initially available on the ground
is eventually wanted in the air.
- Suppliers
need to provide systems that can be integrated relatively
easily, or at least be able to talk to each other.
- Interaction
between flight crews and on-board systems: Our international
and domestic crews can switch back and forth, so in the
best of all worlds the system interface would be so intuitive
it wouldnt require crew training.
Question:
What are the hurdles to overcome from the development, engineering,
or installation side?
Answers/Comments:
- Trying
to design the seat ahead of time to accommodate its installation
in the aircraft. For example, displays may be switching
from analog to VGS interfaces, and the seat supplier must
take this into account in his design. Another example is
laptop power. It would have been a big benefit if we could
have put it in the seat from the beginning (i.e. if the
seats had been prepped for it). Our seat supplier (Koito)
has been very good to work with.
- Matsushita
provides contract maintenance. Maintenance folks have to
be well-versed in IFE systems. Note: An Ad Hoc Group of
ARINC 628 CEI is working on a formula for calculating availability
at the seat and keeping track of availability.
- Airline
financial people want 25" pitch and 500 seats on 777.
Therefore, underseat area is limited, and your seat electronics
box takes up some of that valuable space. The seat box profile
affects customers space and legroom. Anything that
minimizes problems of putting a briefcase under seat is
worthwhile. The London workshop in managing seat environment
showed that too.
Question:
Rich asked if there would be interest in a focused 1-day seat
workshop (i.e. a roll-up the sleeves session to share seat
integration issues). Are there any volunteers to chair it?
Answers/Comments: Kent Craver, Mary Rogozinski, and
Tom Aliffi indicated interest.
Question:
What about advertising, gaming, live TV, and others? Answers/Comments
- Generally
Continental does not advertise in cabin. We do have some
limited promotions with mileage partners for hotels, car
rentals, and phone companies; however, Continental does
not advertise for revenues. Our corporate directive is that
we will not subject customers to unneeded advertising.
- Gaming
: If the US government ever approved of in-flight gambling,
Kent would be surprised if Continental would add it.
- Live
TV: We have two major concerns. 1) News stories on airline
disasters, crashes, and emergencies can introducing undue
stress to our customers. 2) From a logistics standpoint,
live TV is difficult to time correctly on shorter flights
may get the perception from customer on landing, "You
didnt let me finish my entertainment."
Question:
Rather than make the passenger purchase his laptop power
cable before the flight, would you consider to carry and sell
the laptop power cables on board?
Answers/Comments
- No
to accommodate the five most popular laptop manufacturers,
the airline would have to carry 33 different adapters for
all the various models.
- There
may be liability to the airline if damage occurred to laptop
equipment or its software content.
- Continental
attempts to communicate with their customer before the flights
via their web site, and tell them how to obtain the cable.
That alternative is better than providing it on board. Also,
in the future many laptop manufacturers will have direct
15-volt input (eliminating the voltage conversion box) and
will supply the standard cable to connect to inseat power
with the laptop.
II.
Old Business
Revision
of white paper on Media Storage
Rich Salter referred to the white paper on hard disk ruggedization
written by Miltope and posted on the website. At a previous
TC meeting, it was determined that the White paper should
be expanded to include all Mass Media Storage Devices.
David
Crossett, Miltope, presented an outline for the expanded white
paper, which he had prepared with Don Pritchard, MBM Technologies/Lago.
If the outline is approved, Lago and Miltope would like to
form a small working group to write the expanded paper (along
with any other interested parties).
Lago
and Miltope propose a comparative analysis that suppliers
or airlines can look at to see which devices are available
and learn their general characteristics, such as
- EMI/RFI
limiting factors
- Technology
development cycles and product life cycles
- New
developing technologies
- Cost
- Aircraft
environmental qualifications (extended parameters)
- Certification
with local authorities
- Reliability
- Industry
expectations.
He
would like to have a draft completed by the next TC meeting.
After completion of this paper, they would consider expansion
of the Storage WG to incorporate the larger File Server units.
Questions
and debate ensued on the following topics:
Question:
How do you intend to address the cost issue?
Answer/Comments: Note the industry trends only. Otherwise
this has anti-trust implications. That is, note the cost factors
and issues, including what general trends you can expect to
see.
Question:
Is there a distinction between server and most storage devices?
Answer/Comments: The TC can consider broadening the
mission to make it a file server group.
Question:
Are we considering a Media Server or File Server (and note
that ARINC already has a working group for file servers)?
Answer/Comments: If we broaden the mission to servers,
it would be for Data File Servers.
- Some
throughput issues for loading content within a certain turn
time at gate are already included in 0395.
- Matsushita
(Al Abalos) and TCC (Cam Stone) indicated that they would
join the group, and possibly Airbus and Boeing would participate.
Sony (Ken Lew) indicated they would probably join depending
on resources.
- It
was noted that airlines probably dont want to be involved
at this time. Its incumbent on the suppliers to do
the educating about these devises.
Rich
noted that there seemed to be a consensus for the TC to form
a mass media storage group, and embark on a mission to identify
issues with mass storage, creating an enhanced white paper
showing the matrix of issues for the various storage types.
III.
New Business
Working
Group Reports
Satellite
Working Group: Rodger Soucy, Ball Aerospace
Rodger
Soucy, Chair of the Satellite WG, presented the results of
their WG meeting. The Satellite WG met parallel with the DVD-WG
on May 18, 1999. The twenty attendees included representatives
of 3 airlines, 7 suppliers and 2 OEMs.
Rodger
reported that several satellite TV system providers had given
presentations of their architectures, interfaces, performance,
and specifications. The groups objective is to produce
strawman specification for installation requirements to be
presented to the TC and eventually to CEI. Their timeline
is to have the white paper complete in 4th quarter 1999. The
baseline document will include:
- Existing
systems installation requirements
- Block
Diagram for installation
- Standard
ARINC 485 protocol defined for DBS-like systems
- Fuselage
and Tail Fin Systems (2 places where antennas are located)
- Physical
interfaces (mechanical interfaces will be a challenge)
- Electrical
interfaces and power requirements
- For
both single-channel and multi-channel systems
Rodger
announced that the meeting had been successful in reaching
several agreements:
- Cabling
between antenna and SIA (satellite integration area) is
to be supplier provided
- There
will be separate provisions for tail-mounted and fuselage-mounted
installations (i.e. different envelope provisions and proximity
requirements between antenna and equipment are to be defined).
- A
single coax type is to be defined
- The
control and power interface cable requirements have been
reduced since last meeting
Issues
remaining include:
- Maximum
cabin lengths
- Mechanical
interfaces (decide what we can define)
- Coax
type
- Software
protocol (ARINC 485 specification) - no standardization
exists for satellite interface protocol
we want 2
suppliers (Rockwell and Airshow) to work together to provide
a common spec.
Homework
assignments:
- Suppliers
and OEMs to begin document work
- Determine
space envelope/physical requirements
- Identify
Coax requirements
- 485
interface
- Software
data loading (not media content)
The
next Satellite-WG meeting is scheduled for July 26-27 at the
Universal City Hilton.
Comments
and questions were made on the following topics:
Question:
Is there any relationship between what Satelite-WG is doing
and the work by AEECs SATCOM Subcommittee? Is there
anything you could take from the Arinc 741 and 761 specs?
Answer/Comment: This will be investigated.
Question:
Have you defined cabin applications?
Answer/Comment: The initial expected use of this system
is for direct broadcast satellite media content. Data/Internet-related
applications (with their requirements to transmit data onto
and off the aircraft) are expected to be in the future (not
initially).
- Rich
noted that there are eight announced suppliers of satellite
systems for aircraft. Five are participating. It is these
hardware system suppliers along with Boeing and Airbus that
are participating in the Satellite WG (not content providers).
Michael Childers has made the group aware of contract licensing
issues. We fully recognize that this needs to be addressed,
but by a different group of players (the hardware providers
did not feel that they had the expertise in that area).
Rolf Goedecke mentioned that there is one paragraph in their
document addressing the licensing issue, but their intent
is to cover the technical aspects rather than legal aspects.
Questions:
It was asked if the group was specifying analog only?
Answer/Comment: Rodger confirmed that it was analog
NTSC interface from the antenna area to the IFE system input.
In the future there will likely be a digital standard as well.
Ben Sterchi asked if that would require retrofit of system,
noting that airlines will not want to have to add boxes or
wiring later because we only addressed analog/TV inputs now
and delayed addressing digital until the future.
- Rich
requested to have a draft spec circulated to the TC so that
members can review it and make comments back to the WG.
Rodger said he expects that initial draft of the document
will be submitted to the TC for review and input at the
next meeting (only an outline of the document is available
now).
DVD
Working Group: Al McGowan, TEAC America
Al McGowan, Co-chair of the DVD-WG, reported on the just-completed
two and one-half days of meetings. He noted that this was
the groups 4th meeting, and it had the most
airline participation yet: AA, Delta, Lufthansa, Northwest,
Swissair, TWA, United and Virgin Atlantic.
Security
Implementation: The security implementation ad hoc group
is chaired by Julia Cutler, Paramount, and they made progress
on:
- MPAA
recommendation for protected content is two levels of security:
- "Home
video release (Standard CSS and Region 8)
- "Early
Release"(RSA/DES 56 bit encryption method, RSA keys
not on disc, and renewable/revocable keys
- We
hope to hear back soon from the DVD Forum Steering Committee.
We are working to meet a deadline to present this at the
WAEA Annual Conference in Salt Lake City so we need to have
this done ASAP.
Authoring
and Navigation:
This ad hoc group is chaired by Adrian Wang, Den-O-Tech, and
he reported they had heated debate and lively discussions
on:
- DVD
Architecture Review
- Meta-data
review
- Meta-data
binary file format distributed for DVD-WG review
Meta-data
is information about the information. Put initial data on
disc at time of authoring (creation) to tell the system what
is on the disc. This has ramifications on how discs are used
on board aircraft.
Audio
Encoding:
This ad hoc group is chaired by Frank McNeal, TEAC America,
and he reported they had made progress in the following areas:
- Head-End
Requirements:
- Minimum
of 4 audio outputs (compatible with legacy systems)
- Maximum
of 8 audio outputs
- Simultaneous
playback at head-end using Dolby Digital or LPCM.
- DVD
Audio (video associated) with multiple AC-3 audio decoders
poses some challenges for hardware manufacturers but it
does work:
- Extremely
flexible
- Low
disc usage only use what is needed
- Allows
use of meta-data
- May
allow repurposing of pre-existing studio audio content.
Meeting
#4 Progress Summary: Al McGowan summarized the DVD-WG
progress as follows:
- Drafted
resolution to DVD Forum and CSS Interim Licensing Organization
requesting creation of Region 8 region code.
- Arrived
at audio encoding architecture
- Distributed
and approved 2/10/99 meeting minutes
- Distributed
and revised DVDWG document 98/12 rev.1 on IFE DVD requirements
- Reviewed
Specification 0598 strawman version 0.1
- Completed
review of Reference Model
- Next
meeting July 27, 28 and 29 at Universal Hilton.
Al
noted that Kevin Gage is on a flight with the drafted resolution
to DVD Forum and CSS Interim Licensing Organization requesting
creation of Region 8 region code. He further noted that the
DVD-WG would like to present WAEA Spec. 0598 ("DVD Delivery
for In-Flight Entertainment") in its final form at the
WAEA Annual Conference in Salt Lake City in late September.
Rich
thanked Al McGowan for his excellent presentation and noted
that Al, Wade Hanniball and Mary Rogozinski had presented
papers at the recent IFE conferences in London. He highly
recommended that everyone take the time to obtain those presentations
from the authors and review them.
Liaison
Reports
CEI
- Cabin Equipment Interfaces: Dale Freeman reported that
the joint AEEC/WAEA Cabin Equipment Interfaces (CEI) subcommittee
met on February 23-25, 1999, in Osaka, Japan, to review Drafts
and Supplements of ARINC Specifications 628 and 485.
Arinc
628, Part 1 - head end equipment interfaces:
- Supplement
2 was recently adopted by the AEEC
- CEI
will propose changes to RTCA/DO-160 to specify a combination
of the "air discharge" and "contact discharge"
ESD test methods.
Arinc
628, Part 2 seat end equipment interfaces:
- Revised
draft 4 of Supplement 1 to Part 2
- Updated
the Noise Canceling Headset interface
- Reviewed
Seat Video Display mechanical interface definitions.
Arinc
628, Part 4A daisy chain distribution system
- Discussed
inputs for Draft 1 of Supplement 1 to Part 4A
- Define
a butt-joint fiber optic connector
- Define
an in-seat power distribution network system.
The
Remote Software Up/Down (RSUD) Working Group: This WG
briefed attendees on File Server distribution issues as follows:
This
Ad Hoc Working Group is developing candidate applications,
interfaces, and operations for remote software up/down loading,
and their work will be part of Draft Supplement 2 to Part
3 of Arinc 628. Dale noted this does not include IFE content
loading.
British
Airways volunteered to write sections of Part 5 "Cabin
Management and Entertainment System Part Selection
and Wiring Design/Installation Guidelines." As usual,
other airlines inputs are always welcomed.
The
following strawmen were reviewed and discussed with solicitations
for additional comments:
- Part
6 - Fiber Optic Cable
- Part
7 - Cabin Cooling
- Part
8 - IFE Equipment Standard Availability Measurement Guidelines"
The
Connector Working Group: This group continues to develop
Component Procurement and Fiber Optic Specifications. They
are meeting in Seattle concurrent with this meeting.
The
CEI committee reviewed Draft 3 of Project Paper 485, Part
1 "Head End Equipment Protocol." This document
should be submitted for adoption consideration pending an
updated input from AIRSHOW. It was reported that the Arinc
485 standard is progressing slowly. Ken Lew of Sony noted
that, with the recent changes in personnel, he needs to inquire
within his organization to learn if they have assigned a responsible
party yet.
AEEC/WAEA
CEI Subcommittee: Fabrisys Corporation will host the next
meeting in Brussels Belgium June 22-24, 1999.
Tom
Aliffi asked what airlines were represented at CEI meetings.
Dale Freeman answered that typically SAS, KLM, Lufthansa,
Air France, United, and Northwest attend.
Rich
stated that the AEEC cabin equipment interfaces (CEI) subcommittee
has been staffed by Arinc, with the WAEA Technology Committee
supporting it with $40,000 per year for the past several years.
Arinc does not have the resources or priority on IFE (compared
to flight deck avionics systems) to continue to support CEI.
Therefore, a Cabin Systems Task Force (CSTF) has been formed
with the objective to analyze the future of CEI activities
and recommend an organization to develop standards beginning
in January 2000. This CSTF has met by teleconference five
times. They are putting together a report that will analyze
the value of standards and recommend what is needed in the
future. It will recommend how to prioritize interfaces to
standardize, and recommend an organization to develop standards
and address funding of the process. The CSTF plans to have
its report and recommendation to WAEA and AEEC by mid-year.
A recent e-mail survey asks for opinions on several of these
issues.
Mary
stated that the e-mail survey is due back tomorrow. It consists
of a one page cover letter and one page survey form that was
sent to all WAEA primary and technical contacts, and it will
also be sent to TC and CEI attendees. It will take some time
to put together a new organization or charter ARINC by January
2000 to keep the CEI going.
WAEA
Board Meeting and other WAEA Highlights
London
Educational Workshop and Conference -- The recent WAEA
Conference in London was well attended. There was a weekend
between the WAEA and IPEC Conference. Mary indicated the meeting
was very successful and it had touched on many technical topics.
Rich indicated that copies of the papers were available. Contact
him if you would like a copy.
Cabin
Systems Task Force Rich and Mary indicated that
this TF was progressing towards a report with a recommendation
on the best way for proceeding with CEI-type standards next
year. (See more comments above under CEI liaison report).
Quarterly
TC Newsletter "Tech FX" This quarterly
newsletter will be published soon after each TC meeting. The
first issue was already distributed by e-mail and fax, and
many positive comments have been received. Rob Brookler is
the writer. Send your e-mail address to Rich (Rsalter23@aol.com)
if you are not receiving it already.
AVION
Magazine - "TC Update" is a recurring article in each
issue. The first quarter edition focused on Smart Cards WGs
mission accomplished, the second quarter edition will focus
on the Satellite WG progress, and the third quarter edition
will highlight the DVD WG.
WAEA
Annual Conference and Exhibition September 28,
1999 in Salt Lake City. Look for exhibitor kits coming out
shortly. Contact Mimi Ruffing if you do not have exhibit space
yet.
IV.
TC Meeting Sponsorship - Wade and Rich again thanked this
meetings sponsors: Dolby Laboratories, Oxford Media,
Sony Trans Com, and TEAC America. They appealed for sponsors
to step forward for the next meeting. Depending on the number
of sponsors, it will cost approximately $1,000 each.
V.
Next meeting date and location
R.
Salter will communicate by e-mail regarding when and where
the next WAEA TC meeting will be held. (See discussion under
"Upcoming Meetings," above).
VI.
Adjourn
The meeting adjourned at 5:10 p.m.
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